From: Arnaud Fournet
Message: 61748
Date: 2008-11-20
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From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
>> >
>> > Yes, Piotr, this is what happens if one refuses to consider
>> > possible extra-PIE connections.
>
> That particular loan Piotr admitted the possible existence of a long
> time ago.
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/36633
>
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M. Gasiorowski does not seem to speak about LWS in that mail.
This is a personal addition of yours.
A.
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>> I'm very satisfied with the reconstruction *H2jew 'to be alive'.
>>
>> Cf. Semitic hayya 'to live'
>> Cf. Salish hey 'to live'
>> h being a glottal fricative.
>>
>> No doubt H2 here in the root.
>> H2.7 to be more precise.
>> Both internal and external data support the same conclusion.
>>
>> A.
>
> You're late.
>
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/46543
>
> and cf.
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/36632
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/36637
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/36651
>
>
> Torsten
>
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Not so sure I'm late,
You say nothing about Salish
and you are not discussing the main issue : H1/H2.
Actually, we are back to a recent discussion about something being rotten in
the beautiful kingdom of laryngeals.
My memory is falling and I should check before I click on "Envoyer".
Semitic is H.ayya (not hayya which is wrong I'll flog myself ten times
tomorrow morning)
that is to say Semitic has H1 not H2.
Nevertheless, the word "wind" H2aw is Semitic hawa?
If we accept H2 in PIE, then we are back to the problem with H2ante and
Egyptian H.nt.
Apparent match but a stumbling block on the laryngeal : not the right one.
All this is one more example that something does not work the current PIE
theory of laryngeals and vocalism.
I'm not sure the meaning "always, eternal" has any connection with the
meaning "to be alive".
I prefer avoiding that mix up of meanings.
It's possible that mix up of meanings is responsible for Hjw being
erroneously *H1jw.
Is the root Hjw "to be alive" present in Greek ?
A.