Re: Laryngeal h4

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 61473
Date: 2008-11-08

--- On Sat, 11/8/08, Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:

> From: Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...>
> Subject: Re: [tied] Laryngeal h4
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 9:37 AM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "etherman23" <etherman23@...>
> >>
> >
> >> Personally, I'm not surprised that a complex
> row of _Three_
> > consonants such
> >> as H + K +w is rare, root-finally.
> >
> > What makes you think that the labiovelars derive from
> a velar plus w?
> >
> ==============
>
> I believe PIE *kw can derive from :
> - fundamental u in *ku reinterpreted as *kw in the ancestor
> of PIE,
> leading to q in Chamito-Semitic.
> - *k + *w (non fusing to q in CS)
> - *k + *b (voiced not to be confused with PIE *b = p?)
>
> An example is *gwor mountain which I consider is a
> derivative of *gab-al
> "mountain"
> Root *gab > PIE *gw-or
> Cf. Archaic PIE form in French Cevennes < kab-anna
> "mountain".
>
I've seen *kab- associated with "horn" as with various words for "goats" and for "owls", including French chouan. I've never sen the CĂ©vennes, but if they are craggy, "horn" may apply