Re: Re[6]: [tied] Re: [pieml] Labiovelars versus Palatals + Labiovel

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 61311
Date: 2008-11-03

--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:

> From: Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...>
> Subject: Re: Re[6]: [tied] Re: [pieml] Labiovelars versus Palatals + Labiovelar Approximant
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 4:12 AM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick McCallister"
> <gabaroo6958@...>
>
> >
> > So, he left out the final /@/ of careful
> pronunciation, big deal!
> > Don't most people say viey, rather than viey@?
> > Rick
> ========
> I don't know who taught you that @ is careful
> pronunciation at the end of
> words,
> Word-finally, this is southern-accented French
> (not to say "deep-south")
> This feature is sometimes written eu like petite =>
> petiteu
> I'm not sure anybody even in the south would say
> vieilleu
> This sounds definitely strange.
> A
> ========
>
> >
> > And you never answered my question about liaison in
> les huits
> ======
> Les Z huitres with liaison /le -z- uitR/
>
> I answered in a previous message
> You must have overlooked the answer.
>
> A.

French professors in the US often pronounce it that way. The French I've met who say it were either from the South or were French professors who seem to think it was "more correct" to say /famiy@/, /vyey@/, abey@/, /øy@/, etc.