Re: Belgs

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 60890
Date: 2008-10-14

--- On Tue, 10/14/08, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> From: tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...>
> Subject: [tied] Re: Belgs
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 2:14 PM
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Arnaud Fournet"
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "tgpedersen"
> >
> > > > Such a culture : late and widespread can
> hardly coincide with
> > > > one particular language.
> > >
> > > If the people who spoke it were traders it would.
> Cf. English
> > >
> > > ===========
> > >
> > > Traders usually leave about no traces at all.
> > > CF. Phoenicians.
> > ======
> > Cf. English
> > And how about all Venneman's and Møller's
> IE-Semitic matches?
> > =======
> >
> > I cannot see the relevance of English as regards
> Traders and Veneti.
> > Please explain.
> Well, most people see that where the English have traded,
> English has
> become the lingua franca if the locals needed one (ie. if
> there wasn't
> a strong state backing up a state language). The French
> might see that
> otherwise, of course.
>
> > Moeller's matches could be cognates, hence
> irrelevant.
> They match too well for the languages, which match badly,
> so no, I
> don't think so.
> BTW, I made a .pdf copy of Møller's Vergleichendes
> indogermanisch-semitisches Wörterbuch for Ishinan. Do you
> want a copy?
>
> > Venneman's work is highly suspect of being nothing
> but fanciful.
> That's the word in the community, mostly by people who
> haven't read
> him. You should check for yourself.
>
> Torsten

Vennemann is not a crackpot. He may be wrong on some or many things but his work is well written and well researched. His wordlists are interesting and even if his conclusions are wrong, the lists need to be checked out.
I'd appreciate a copy of Møller, if you can spare one :>