Re: Suffix -ock

From: tgpedersen
Message: 60791
Date: 2008-10-11

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "afyangh" <fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe this has already been dealt with before,
> but I have not been able to find a reference in the archives.
>
> What is to be thought about the suffix -ock, that appears in
> hill-ock, bull-ock, etc ?
>
> Substrate, which substrate, possibly Indo-European or not ?

The suffix *-Vk in Germanic Kuhn ascribes to NWBlock. Try 'paddock' in
the archives.

The interesting question is whether English picked that and other NWB
suffixes and glosses up already on the continent, or in England. The
latter would mean that the Angles and Saxons also encountered a
non-Celtic language on the island. I find them also in various Insular
Celtic languages, Chris and Brian vehemently dispute this and prefer
instead that they are borrowed directly from English (but some occur
in Breton too).

BTW, George claimed recently that the Belgae invaded Belgium with the
Germani from the east. BTW, see
Files > Maps from Udolph > 01 bholgh.jpg
Food for thought. It would make sense of Tacitus' claim that the
Aestii's language was similar to that in Britain (which T. in Agricola
relates to Belgic).


Torsten