Res: [tied] Odysseus

From: Joao S. Lopes
Message: 60673
Date: 2008-10-08

Although I don't know its meaning, I believe it's plausible a *dl- cluster for Deukalion (both Prometheus's son and Minos's son), because I see a possible connection with other anthroponyms as Lykos (Prometheus's son, Hyrieus's son and Poseidon's son) and Glaukos (Minos's son and Sisyphos's son). But the language would not be "regular" Greek, should be dialectal Pre-Greek substrata, with divergent shifts
Deukalion  < *dleuk-
Lykos, Lykastos, Lyko:ros < *dlu:k
Glaukos < *dlauk-
Odysseus/Oulyxe:s < *o-dlu(:)k-sehu-

pelea "poplar" points to a *tp- cluster due its allomorph ptelea, and its possible cognate Slavic topol-. Similar case in ptolemos/polemos "war, battle". Lykos was the name of many Greek rivers.

JS Lopes



----- Mensagem original ----
De: Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 8 de Outubro de 2008 5:19:28
Assunto: Re: [tied] Odysseus


----- Original Message -----
From: "stlatos" <stlatos@... com>
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> An IE language spoken in Greece before Hellenic settlement added a
> before some consonant clusters beginning a word: *tpelyo- > apellon
> 'black poplar', *trktro- > atraktos 'spindle', *tlaxa:ns > Atla:s.
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Thank you for providing new examples of a-mobile in IE.
Apellon is direct from a-pellon
(no need for a t- otherwise it should be **aptellon)
Arnaud
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>
> Since Deukalion is supposed to come from *dleuk-sxalyo- 'sweet /
> freshwater sailor' < *dlukus 'sweet / freshwater' and *sxal 'salt,
> seawater'
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Out of *dleuk-sH2alyo- , I would expect **leuksalio
And should this not be better constructed as *dleuk-o-sH2alyo- ?

Arnaud



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