From: tgpedersen
Message: 60601
Date: 2008-10-06
>So, seven changes in 50,000 years. That's approximately one change
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
> >>
> >> I've been talking of correspondences and super-cognates.
> >> The answer is
> >> 4. ST, PAA, PIE and Yukaghir inherited the roots from a common
> >> ancestor.
> >>
> >> Hoping this time you may get it !?
> >> I'm ready for a fifth attempt at stating the same.
> >
> > So the answer is 3). You didn't mention that. Presumable we're
> > talking 11,000 - 12,000 years ago then. How come these words are
> > preserved relatively unchanged all those years in those
> > languages, while other words are not?
> > Torsten
> >
> ============
> Your recent datation is inadequate.
> - 9000 BC is after PIE split.
> So it's certainly not the right time.
> These words must be about -50 000.
>
> I don't think these words have remained unchanged :
> If we look at Chinese :
> *pol "full"
> 1. Suffix ng : polng
> 2. l > yod (a common north Asian change) poyng
> 3. voiceless becomes aspirated pHoyng (ST change)
> 4. no "throat effect" hence pHoyng1 (Chinese change)
> 5. vowel split o > wo (northern Chinese change) pHwoyng1
> (Cf. Baxter *ph(r)jong)
> 6. labials become f when followed by w foyng1
> 7. Modern Mandarin feng1
>
> What makes you think nothing happened ?