Re: Salt, s-/h-

ALLOBROGES perhaps doesn't mean "the seconds in the territory", but
"DWELLERS IN THE SALT REGION". "mroga" or "broga" is indeed
"inhabitable earth" and...

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Based on hal- vs. sal- words for "salt"? After all you do
seem
> > > > to have something similar in Bavarian/Austrian topos, or at
> > > > least in Hallstadt vs. Salzburg. Perhaps there both forms
> > > > co-existed and some splits of Celtic went for /h/ and others
> > > > kept /s/ and the transformation was not completely realized
> > >
> > >
> > > I forgot about that one. Here's more:
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halle,_Saxony-Anhalt
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halle,_North_Rhine-Westphalia
> > > versus
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saale
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A4nkische_Saale
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallein
> > > vs.
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salzach
> > >
> > > It seems those who named (first navigated?) the rivers had s-,
but
> > > those who produced salt had s- > h-
> > >
> >
> > Oops and BTW
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/56501
> > referring to
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/30032
> > Kuhn should have moved Lat. sa:l up among the pairs, paired with
> > Gmc. salt-.
> > Now if these water-oriented words were loaned into the a-voweled
> > 'mots populaires' of Latin and into Germanic from Venetic, then
the
> > river names in sal- are Venetic too. And Sal- is one of Krahe's
Old
> > European roots in river names, but Old European is supposed to be
> > Venetic anyway. It all adds up.
>
> BTW s- > h- seems to be otherwise only Brythonic
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_languages
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brythonic_languages
> since Gaulish has Saman "summer", cf. OI sam.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaulish_language
> Celtic around Halle/Saale seems to have been p-Celtic.
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/20871
> Now how does *that* add up?
>
>
> Torsten
>