Sequani turnaround (Was: Re: Haplogroup I)

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:

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> --- On Tue, 9/30/08, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
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> Here is the major difference between our interpretations. You assume
> that since A. is bad person he will always do bad things, because
> that is what bad people do. I don't have that Manichaean outlook.
>
> ****GK: I didn't realize you claimed to read minds.(:=)))

No, I watch people in action ;-)

> In this instance, however, you've not succeeded. As I see it,
> Ariovistus was no better and no worse than Caesar. People who
> struggle for power "do what's necessary" (cf. "Body Heat"(:=)))

Oh. C. flashed A? Or was it the other way round? Is that why they wore
togas?

> Caesar was more successful. Vae victis. Period.****

Yes, and one thing which is necessary is not to look like a common
shoplifter under interrogation in the back room to those you want to
control. Which is what you haven't taken into consideration.

> Whatever one might think of the character of A. he, like any other
> person, would not tell a lie he knew the other person knew was a
> lie. A stunt like that would make you look stupid and you would
> lose respect among all those who were present and were better
> informed. Therefore, when he claims has has been attacked by "omnes
> Galliae civitates", then that is from his point of view what had
> happened.
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> ****GK: We don't know what Ariovistus said. Caesar wrote DBG.

What C. wrote A. said was damning to Caesar, so much that Dio Cassius
could use it against him. The account of what A. said is so full of
internally consistent details that it must come from secretarial
notes, C. would have seen to were taken in such an important negotiation.

> And we know his loose use of "Galli" and "Gallia".

We know your loose use of it to make your story stick.

> Give it up, Torsten.You can't win this one.****

Yes, that is now your last hope.

> (Torsten)In general, people get a lot of enjoyment out of kicking
> the loser. Historians are definitely no exception. That standard
> version is at odds with elementary psychology.

> ****GK: Torsten psychology is not elementary psychology. (:=)))****

Whatever. Anything concrete?


Torsten