Re: Re[6]: [tied] Re: The OIT state of the art

From: Arnaud Fournet
Message: 60161
Date: 2008-09-20

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...>
To: "Arnaud Fournet" <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>

>>> I know what the AHD says; ATILF/Trésor takes the same
>>> view, which is the traditional one. But the fact that it
>>> appears in a Latin form in the 6th century shows that
>>> shows that the borrowing was not into OFr, but into Late
>>> Latin or Gallo-Romance (unless there was a second, later
>>> borrowing).
>
>> What is your source for mariscalcus ??
>
>
> (In case you don't know, the editors of the OED
> are in the process of producing a completely revised 3rd
> edition. They started with the letter <M> and have now done
> <M> through <Q> and a small part of <R>. They're also
> adding words and senses throughout the dictionary.)
>
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Thanks.
Arnaud
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> In any case, your source is clearly mistaken: Latham's
> Revised Medieval Latin Word-List from British and Irish
> Sources, a standard reference, shows <mariscalcus> ca.1080
> and <marescalcus> 1086 and has several other citations
> earlier than the 13th century. (The sources aren't
> identified, but that 1086 citation is almost certainly from
> Domesday Book; at any rate an <Alueredus marescalcus> does
> appear in DB, as does a <Rogero marescalco>.)
>
> Brian
>
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What about the VIth century you previously mentioned ?

Arnaud
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