Re: Nori

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:

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> >> By the 3rd edition he no longer does so: he traces it back
> >> only to OE <cild>. The same goes for the 4th edition, which
> >> is available online at <http://bartleby.com/61/>. (The
> >> entry for <child> may be seen at
> >> <http://www.bartleby.com/61/13/C0291300.html>.)
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> > Doesn't necessarily mean that OE <cild> is unrelated to
> > Goth <kilthei> and <inkiltho:>;
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> Of course it doesn't. It says nothing at all about that
> relationship. It does mean that Watkins was no longer
> willing to trace <cild> back to a PIE root, however.
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I thought your original point was that <cild> is peculiar to English
only, and unrelated to Gothic <qilthei> (i.e. <kilthei>), both of
which are untrue according to the Oxford English Dictionary and
Webster's New World Collegiate Dictionary.

> > I see no reason to retract the posited kinship to
> > these Gothic words; perhaps it was just for economy.
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> Not at all likely, since it's also not in his Dictionary of
> Indo-European Roots.
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Are you saying that the English word <cild> is in his Dictionary of
Indo-European Roots, but its kinship to Gothic <kilthei> and
<inkiltho:> and Scandinavian <kulder etc.> is not? Or do you mean that
English <cild> not in his Dictionary of IE Roots? That would not
necessarily mean that the word is unique to English (as I thought your
original point was), since the Gothic and Scandinavian cognates
disprove this; as well, so mundane a source as Webster's New World
Collegiate Dictionary suggests that <cild> goes back to IE *gel-
"rounded" which through "swelling" came to mean "womb/pregnant" and
thence "foetus, child"; this *gel- is there also suggested as the
source of Latin <globus> "sphere" (and cf. also Sanskrit <glau>
"lump/moon/earth", English <clue> in its original sense (= <clew>)
"ball of yarn or thread").