Re: Haplogroup I

--- On Mon, 8/4/08, tgpedersen wrote
george knysh wrote: the only
archaeologically significant "mixing" of Zarubinian and Przeworsk
cultures ocurred not sooner than 50 CE (in the area of today's Western
Ukraine). It resulted in the creation of the hybrid "Zubrytska"
culture, in which Zarubinian elements were dominant.
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What is the 50 CE date based on?

Torsten

****GK: I'd have to check my sources. But it seems there is no room for error. It's a combination of pottery style change analyses (both "local" and imported), jewellery style analyses, building technique developments etc etc etc the whole gamut of unearthed material culture objects archaeologists delight in. If you're interested I can give you references when I get home from L.A. What's interesting is that Przeworsk itself seems to have expanded eastward into today's Western Ukraine not sooner than sometime in the period 50-25 BCE i.e. some 75-100 years earlier than the arrival of the Zarubinians. These Zarubinians BTW not only came in almost exclusively from the vacated areas of the upper Pripet/Prypjat', but were descended from the "Pomeranian" (Venetic?) component of the Zarubinian culture(arriving in the upper Prypjat' area in the course of the 4th c BCE). One should bear in mind that although the Zarubinian culture which emerged in the course of
the 3rd c. BCE was spread over a wide area, it had 5 distinct components. The Pomeranian element was present everywhere (in association with subsequent Jastorf groups) but east of the vacated Polissia it was outnumbered by descendants of local cultures, even if a case can be made for its political dominance. Only in Polissia (upper Prypjat') did the Pomeranians constitute a hefty majority in (apparently) all classes of the population, and that is the group which superimposed itself on the Galician Przeworkers in the mid-1rst c. CE to create the Zubrytska culture.****