Re: A new Saxnot etymology

From: A.
Message: 59702
Date: 2008-07-31

Shortly after posting, another thought hit me, we have continental
and insular recordings of the name and so might be able to
reconstruct an earlier form.

The continental 9th century baptismal pledge (abrenuntiatio) actually
preserves the name in Old Saxon:
"end ec forsacho allum dioboles uuercum and uuordum, Thunaer ende
UUo^den ende Saxno^te ende allum the^m unholdum the^ hira geno^tas
sint"
(The circumflex carets are placed after the letters they accent)


Meanwhile over in England:
The genealogy of the East Saxon kings gives the names as Seaxneat,
Seaxnet, Seaxnete, and Seaxneting.
I have been unable to determine when the genealogy was recorded.

In "The Oldest English Texts" by Henry Sweet, we get the genealogy
as:
de regibus orientalmm seaxonum.
Offa sighering, sighere sigberbting, sigberht s(aweard)ing, saweard
saberhting, saberht sledding sle(dd) aescwining, aescwine offing,
offa bedcing, bedca (sigefugling), sigefugl swaepping, swaeppa 15
antsecging, ants(ecg) gesecging, gesecg seaxneting.

The appendix of the chronicle of John of Worcester, aka Florence of
Worcester; gives the name as Seaxnete.




So what I am wondering is whether there is any way to reconstruct an
earlier Gmc/Proto-Gmc form of the name, based upon the derivations
produced (Old Saxon Saxnote as well as the English Seaxneat,
Seaxnete, Seaxnet)
Any ideas????


Lastly, in my search to find a time frame for the English genealogy,
I came across the following text:
In "Anglo-Saxon England", edited by Michael Lapidge:
"The names Seaxnetingas (and also the name 'Saxones') contains an
element referring to a knife or blade. 'Neat' is a substantive
derived from the adverb 'neotan' -to be of use - and is related to
the word for need. It may also mean dependent, sometimes in the sense
of vassal. Seaxnet, the ancestral god of the dynasty, may be
translated as 'blade need'."

This would seem to fit with Carla's etymology. Any additional
thoughts?

Sincerely,
Aydan