Re: Thiazi's etymology: < Saami?

From: tgpedersen
Message: 59292
Date: 2008-06-18

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...> wrote:
>
> Picked from wikipedia:
> The earliest Sami yoik texts written down refer to the world as
Skadesi-suolo (north-Sami) and SkaÄ`suâl (east-Sami), meaning "Skade's
island" (Svennung 1963). Svennung considers the Sami name to have been
introduced as a loan word from the North Germanic languages;[48]
"Skade" is the giant stepmother of Freyr and Freyja in Norse
mythology. It has been suggested that Skade to some extent is modeled
on a Sami woman. The name for Skade's father Thjazi is known in Sami
as Čáhci, "the waterman", and her son with Odin, Saeming, can be
interpreted as a descendent of Saam the Sami population (Mundel
2000)[49], (Steinsland 1991).[50] Older joik texts give evidence of
the old Sami belief about living on an island and state that the wolf
is known as suolu gievra, meaning "the strong one on the island". The
Sami place name Sulliidčielbma means "the island's threshold" and
Suoločielgi means "the island's back".
>
> Thjazi < C^ahci "the waterman"
>
> So, Saami *C^> CGerm *Tj- < ON Thj- ?
>
PGmc *þ > 'Scandinavian' /t/ (except > /d/ where Engl. has /ð/).
Saami /c^/, 'Scandinavian' /tj/ is a nice match, perhaps some 'lower'
dialect of Norse already had that when thename was borrowed; 'high'
Norse would the render that as *þj.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/10841
Skaði, obl. Skaða is inflected as a m., although a f. name.
cf. the etymology of Scania
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scania


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