Re: Re[2]: [tied] Scientist's etymology vs. scientific etymology

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 59078
Date: 2008-06-06

--- "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:

> At 3:21:05 PM on Thursday, June 5, 2008, Carl Hult
> wrote:
>
> > Well, you rush to your linguist friend's defence,
> as I
> > thought you would.
>
> What 'linguist friend'?!
>
> > I can agree that greek could very well be the
> origin of
> > germanic word butter but there's also the chance
> it could
> > have taken the course via latin from another
> language
> > without greek being the "middle man".
>
> The spelling of Latin <butyrum> with <y> is a very
> good
> indication that it came from Greek.
>
> [...]
>
> > Maybe I should be more precise about why I doubt
> the
> > "official" etymology of the word church. First of
> all, the
> > word originates in the western hemisphere of
> Europe. I
> > believe it has more to do with a relative of the
> word
> > circle. Second, why did the germanic peoples of
> all bother
> > to use a word to translate the word ecclesia if
> that word
> > they used was a word from another language in the
> first
> > place.
>
> Obviously because it was borrowed into WGmc. at a
> very early
> date and thoroughly nativized. Nothing strange
> about that.
>
> Brian
>
Given that both kyriak- "of the Lord" and ekklesia
"assembly" both came from Greek, did they originally
denote the building as opposed to the congregation?