Re: The ur-/ar- language

--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

>
> Gotta learn to finish my sentences
> > Note on Kuhn's use of the term 'The last
> Indo-European': it seems he
> > identifies Krahes Alteuropäisch with the earliest
> IE, perhaps with
> > PIE itself, which is of course wrong. If the
> Veneti (new etymology:
> > from *wes-n- "merchant", later "beggar" (Pokorny),
> cf the Dutch 'sea
> > beggars')
> were traders by water (note Vinnili, western Wend
> names in Germany <->
> Lacus Venetus (Lake Constance) <-> the Veneto
> province in Italy is the
> later trade route between the ports of Venice and
> Amsterdam) it's not
> strange that they should have named all European
> rivers; that would
> also explain the strange uniformness of the language
> of those names
> over such a large area.
>
>
> Torsten
>

I like Douglas Kilday's scenario of the western
leading edge of IE being responsible for that --and
it's not really incompatible with your idea. It has
less drama but as later waves of settlement moved in,
they may have left remnants --i.e. the Siculi/Sikeloi,
NWB, Iarn Beurla, et al. as Douglas pointed out.