From: tgpedersen
Message: 58892
Date: 2008-05-27
>AFAIK, there aren't any trace of Celts in the Netherlands. NWB must
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Reig Vidal over at Substrate, explained that
> > Lusitanian is linked archeologically to the Bell
> > Beaker Culture.
> > I'm not sure if he's on this list but I hope, so he
> > can elaborate.
> > Does anyone know that this link to be certain?
> > As we know, Lusitanian resembles both Celtic and
> > Italic but, unlike Celtic, maintained /p/. Until Reig
> > posted, my guess was that it came from somewhere
> > around the Alps, perhaps N. Italy before passing into
> > Spain and that it was probably the same language that
> > Coromines referred to as Sorotaptic and others
> > (including Lapesa, I think --unless he was citing
> > someone else) termed Ligurian or Illyrian.
> > Reig explained that Bell Beaker culture was from N.
> > Germany, Benelux, etc. and that's what I had seen but
> > Wikipedia has it all over W Europe.
> > The dates are about a 1,000 years earlier than what I
> > would have expected for Lusitanian. Given its
> > closeness to Celtic and Italic, I would have expected
> > that it entered shortly before Celtiberian was
> > established in Iberia. Maybe c. 1,000 BCE.
> > I'll you all answer this
> >
>
> Bell-Beaker culture spread so rapidly across western Europe that the
> starting point is hard to determine. If it started in the Low
> Countries, and if we accept Kitson's deduction that the Beaker Folk
> spoke "Alteuropäisch", the Indo-European language of Krahe's river-
> name system, then we might expect Kuhn's "Nordwestblöckisch" to be
> the language spoken by the descendents of those Bell-Beaker tribes
> who stayed at home, the NWB enclave being overrun first by Celtic,
> then by Germanic languages.