Re[14]: [tied] Re: PIE initial *a

From: Brian M. Scott
Message: 58674
Date: 2008-05-19

At 12:19:39 PM on Sunday, May 18, 2008, Andrew Jarrette
wrote:

> "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:

>> At 2:57:41 PM on Saturday, May 17, 2008, Andrew Jarrette
>> wrote:

>>> Andrew Jarrette <anjarrette@...> wrote:

>>>> Not to mention, in Southwest and Midland dialects,

>>>> y: y
>>>> ø: ø
>>>> ?: ?
> -------------

> If you reexamine my postings, nowhere did I posit a short
> phoneme /?/.

Unfortunately, whatever you wrote got slightly mangled in
transition between your system and mine, so I had to do some
guessing; apparently I guessed wrong.

[...]

> Not the East Midlands: it went with the North and had the
> unrounded vowels. And only two sets, I think, one high and
> one mid. Oversimplifying a bit:

> North & SW &
> OE East Midl. SW Midl. SE
> -----------------------------
> y: i: y: e:
> y i y e
> e:o e: ø: e:
> eo e ø e
> __________

> I find your "oversimplification" a bit difficult to read.

You're apparently using an interface that suppresses leading
spaces. (You're also using one that doesn't quote correctly
and doesn't insert line breaks, both of which are mildly
annoying.) I've adjusted the 'North & SW &' line to its
proper position above; with the leading quote chevron, it
should stay where it belongs this time, giving the correct
column headings of 'OE', 'North & East Midl.', 'SW & SW
Midl.', and 'SE'. (I'm a little surprised that you didn't
figure out what had happened simply on the basis of what you
know about the dialects.)

By the way, I'm on the road until the coming weekend, so my
responses are likely to be spotty.

Brian