Re: Deutschland vs. Sakartvelo

afyangh ta nugatu-r:

>> First, you should explain why Germanics borrowed words from Colchians,
>> Iberians or other Kartvelian peoples and not from some *North*
>> Caucasian languages.

> I have not studied North Caucasic vis a vis proto Germanic. As regards
> the reasons why LWs were possible, I have made no secret I think
> Germanic originates in a (eastern) place where LWs from Kartvelian,
> Early Uralic and Tibetan are possible.

Where was that "eastern place" exactly? Kazakhstan? Proto-Kartvelians
tribes lived in more or less the same area as their descendants today, so
there any PK loanwords into PG would be impossible.

>> Second, you should provide more than one example of *believable*
>> loanwords from Proto-Kartvelian into Common Germanic.

> I have suggested :
> Neolithic words.

You can't be serious! This list is hilarious. Is this your scientific
method or simply laziness? One way or another, my appraisal is:
*doubleplusungood*.

Let me show you why:

> zoGwa >> zGar "sea" > sajwa

Proto-Kartvelian >> Mod. Georgian [+wrong word] > Proto-Germanic -- the
only example worth mentioning

> zGarbi "hedgehog" >> Igel

Mod. Georgian >> Mod. German -- zGap'ruli!

> saxli "house" >> sal

Mod. Georgian >> unknown language -- did you mean German _Saal_??
Besides, Proto-Kartvelian probably didn't have the initial _s_.

> daq >> tkha "goat" > Ziege

Proto-Kartvelian >> Mod. Georgian > Mod. German -- PIE *_digh-_ > PG
*_tig-o:-_ > OHG _ziga_ > MHG > _zige_ > ModG _Ziege_ (Gerhard Köbler,
"Germanisches Wörterbuch", 2007)

By the way, the ToB's PK reconstruction (*_daq-_ ~ _dqa-_) is obviously
wrong. Here's my three-minute proper reconstruction:

root *_doXa_ 'a neolithic animal with two horns and goatee'

PK *_doXa_ > _dXa_ > _tXa_ > Georgian, Mingrelian, Laz _txa_
PK *_doXa_ > _doX_ > _daX_ > Svan _daq_

This PK root is obviously related to PIE _dhugH2-tér_ 'goat-er'.

> Dart is zaG (maybe in North Caucasic)

I failed to find _zaG_ in Georgian and failed to find it in the ToB
North Caucasian database. What language is it from?

> It can explain such a word as hedgehog.

Nope.

>> You ignored my question ("What happened to the initial..."),

> Z is treated either as s or H2

I don't get it. PG speakers could pick their choices??


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