Re: beyond langauges

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 58112
Date: 2008-04-27

--- david_russell_watson <liberty@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister
> <gabaroo6958@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > No. We are looking for a term to define non-Dardic
> IA
> > of the Indian subcontinent.
>
> There's no need for such a term, as far as I can
> see.
> 'Dardic' was orginally employed as a cover term for
> a
> group of Indo-Iranian dialects based entirely on
> their
> geographical location, not due to their constituting
>
> a proper genetic sub-group.
>
> Once the Dardic group was examined more carefully,
> it
> was found to include Kafiri, which was recognized as
>
> a separate branch of Indo-Iranian, as well as a
> number
> of Indo-Aryan dialects actually forming a proper
> sub-
> group. The Kafiri dialects were, naturally,
> removed,
> but 'Dardic' was retained for the remaining
> Indo-Aryan
> dialects which formed a sub-group. That group's
> also
> referred to as 'North-West Indo-Aryan', and which is
>
> probably to be preferred to 'Dardic'.
>
> > Max suggested Indic.
> > Brian pointed out that in accordance to academic
> > nomenclature, Indic and Indo-Aryan are the same
> thing.
>
> They're synonymous when the context is understood as
>
> being entirely Indo-European, otherwise confusion
> can
> arise in such cases as when we wish, for example, to
>
> discuss an Indic Tibeto-Burman or Indic
> Austro-Asiatic
> language.
>
> David
>
Well, I'm seeing some problems in the branching and I
respect your opinion on it. You're saying that
Dardic/NW-IA is just another branch of Indo-Aryan and
didn't split off before Old Indic/Vedic, right?
Wikipedia has a different spiel with 4 branches.
Wikipedia I-IR
1. Iranian
2, Nuristani
3. Dardic
4. Indo-Aryan
I realize that some others see Nuristani as Iranian.
Is it worthwhile to rehash this --in a calm rational
way, of course ;>



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