Re: Magyar uveg <-> Romanian uiag&

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 57982
Date: 2008-04-25

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tolgs001" <george_st@...> wrote:
>
> > you don't see any because you compare with the actual Hungarian
form
> > üveg. Look, I already said that if the form has been *uwega, then
the
> > the stress shuold have been on "e" and the Romanian speakers
perceived
> > the "uw" as long "u" which was reduced _naturaly_ in their
language
> to a
> > neutral "u". That is, the "a" at the end of uiagã can be the
Romanian
> > adaptation after sticlã, butelcã, ploscã what ever, thus you got
a 3
> > syllabic word which was rendered as *u-é-ga; the stressed "e"
yotacised
> > to "ie" and the "ie" became "ia". I don't know the word, it is a
> > regionalism but I should say that the plural form of "uiagã"
is "uiege"
> > as each other ord with "ia" ( iapa-iepe, iarna-ierni, mia-miele,
etc.)
> > It will be strange for me to be a plural *uiage there....
>
> (Uiegi & iegi /d3/.) But otherwise bravo! Jos palaria.
>
> George


George, Alex,

1. The stress e > ye is ENDED END OF ROMAN PERIOD

2. The stressed e>ea and o>oa (followed by a,e,&) is ENDED after the
first wave of Slavic Loans (see Rosetti, IRL too on this topic)

3. see P'ES,TERA (<Sl.) versus
SOARE, SEAR~A, CEAP~A, CEARC~AN etc...


4. P'ES,TERA : http://dexonline.ro/search.php?lexemId=42595

5. So There is no e>ye or e>ea ; o>oa in the Hungarian Loans in
Romanian.

Marius