Re: Origin of *marko- Margus murg ma'rgas amurg

From: george knysh
Message: 57487
Date: 2008-04-16

--- alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:

GK: The Marcomanni initially appear as part of
> > Ariovistus' army in northern Gaul. Distinct from
> the
> > Suebi (58 BCE). So they are part of those
> "Germani"
> > Diviciacus complained as having recently crossed
> the
> > Rhine. Some 50 years later, under Maroboduus, they
> > migrate to Bohemia, and are thereafter considered
> to
> > be part of the Suebian complex. A very strong case
> can
> > be made for their identity with the West Przeworsk
> > populations which initially moved west from the
> Oder
> > basin into the Wetterau and Thuringia, and later
> > Bohemia. "Bordering" what? In Ariovistus' time
> most
> > likely the Suebians (in those eastern territories
> they
> > (the Marcomanni) vacated. Some have argued for the
> > Rhine border with the Gauls and Romans. However
> there
> > were also other Germanic populations there, so the
> > vacated territory in the east seems a stronger
> > hypothesis in the specific historical context of
> the
> > late 1rst c. BCE.
> >
>
> I think that Wikipedia account better than your
> above explanation\
> I already posted it before:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcomanni

****GK: Don't see anything about "horses" there (:=))
And the legate explanation is obviously wrong since we
know of Marcomanni 45 years earlier. But you're
welcome to your opinion. No skin off my nose.****
>
> also "I have asked Border-men for WHO"?
>
> This "Border-men" story is a folk-etymology

****GK: Unlike the "horsemen"?(:=)))****

> repeated here by
> Piotr ...there was no clear borders among the
> Germanic Tribes at that
> time (if you read Tacitus this appear as a clear
> conclusions)

****GK: The borders shifted of course, but they were
there at any given time. Read Tacitus et al. Why some
rather than others should have been called "marchmen"
raises the same difficulty (or lack thereof) as to why
some rather than others,in your scheme, should be
"horsemen".****
>
> Marius
>
>
>



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