Re: Origin of *marko- Margus murg ma'rgas amurg

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 57479
Date: 2008-04-16

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
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> --- alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:
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> > >(Piotr Gonsiorowski): For the same reason the
> Marcomanni were certainly
> > the 'Border Folk'
> > > (Gmc. *marka- 'mark, boundary stone', *marko:
> > 'boundary, border),
> > just
> > > like the Anglian Mercians.
> >
> > First, I DON'T SEE that 'reason' ---> see 4. and
> > 5. first
> >
> > So I disagree here....'Border Folks'? Border
> > Folks of Who?
> > The Germanic Tribes were very dispersed...(see
> > Tacitus) also I
> > don't think that they have a Global Germanic
> > 'Conscience' at that
> > time to refer to the Germanic Borders of All the
> > Germans...
>
> ****GK: The Marcomanni initially appear as part of
> Ariovistus' army in northern Gaul. Distinct from the
> Suebi (58 BCE). So they are part of those "Germani"
> Diviciacus complained as having recently crossed the
> Rhine. Some 50 years later, under Maroboduus, they
> migrate to Bohemia, and are thereafter considered to
> be part of the Suebian complex. A very strong case can
> be made for their identity with the West Przeworsk
> populations which initially moved west from the Oder
> basin into the Wetterau and Thuringia, and later
> Bohemia. "Bordering" what? In Ariovistus' time most
> likely the Suebians (in those eastern territories they
> (the Marcomanni) vacated. Some have argued for the
> Rhine border with the Gauls and Romans. However there
> were also other Germanic populations there, so the
> vacated territory in the east seems a stronger
> hypothesis in the specific historical context of the
> late 1rst c. BCE.*****
>

I think that Wikipedia account better than your above explanation\
I already posted it before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcomanni

also "I have asked Border-men for WHO"?

This "Border-men" story is a folk-etymology repeated here by
Piotr ...there was no clear borders among the Germanic Tribes at that
time (if you read Tacitus this appear as a clear conclusions)

Marius