--- alexandru_mg3 <
alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:
> >(Piotr Gonsiorowski): For the same reason the
Marcomanni were certainly
> the 'Border Folk'
> > (Gmc. *marka- 'mark, boundary stone', *marko:
> 'boundary, border),
> just
> > like the Anglian Mercians.
>
> First, I DON'T SEE that 'reason' ---> see 4. and
> 5. first
>
> So I disagree here....'Border Folks'? Border
> Folks of Who?
> The Germanic Tribes were very dispersed...(see
> Tacitus) also I
> don't think that they have a Global Germanic
> 'Conscience' at that
> time to refer to the Germanic Borders of All the
> Germans...
****GK: The Marcomanni initially appear as part of
Ariovistus' army in northern Gaul. Distinct from the
Suebi (58 BCE). So they are part of those "Germani"
Diviciacus complained as having recently crossed the
Rhine. Some 50 years later, under Maroboduus, they
migrate to Bohemia, and are thereafter considered to
be part of the Suebian complex. A very strong case can
be made for their identity with the West Przeworsk
populations which initially moved west from the Oder
basin into the Wetterau and Thuringia, and later
Bohemia. "Bordering" what? In Ariovistus' time most
likely the Suebians (in those eastern territories they
(the Marcomanni) vacated. Some have argued for the
Rhine border with the Gauls and Romans. However there
were also other Germanic populations there, so the
vacated territory in the east seems a stronger
hypothesis in the specific historical context of the
late 1rst c. BCE.*****
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