Re: Priimary Stem Formants: =*H, -*i/y, *-u/w

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Subject: Re: Re: [tied] RE: Priimary Stem Formants: =*H, -*i/y, *-u/w


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> From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>
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> > On 2008-04-08 16:26, Patrick Ryan wrote:
> >
> >> Have the scholars who postulated an initial *H2 in *yeu-, 'young', by
> >> any
> >> chance looked as *yeu-, 'mix'?
> >
> > There is no *jeu- 'young'. The surviving cognates show that *//h2jew-//
> > was originally acrostatic (nom.sg. *h2óju, gen. *h2áju-s ~ *h2áiw-os,
> > later also *h2jéu-s on the analogy of mobile (proterokinetic) stems. The
> > verb root *jeu- has its vowel in a different interconsonantal slot and I
> > don't know of any good evidence for an initial laryngeal.
> > PG
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> As is supported by Salish heyi "to be alive" and Arabic haya "to live"
> where h is a glottal voiced fricative.
> Arnaud

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This is the 'water' H2, Arabic <H>, dotted <h.>.

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> > There is, admittedly, something onomatopoeic about *//h2weh1-// 'blow'
> > and possibly *//h2enh1-// 'breathe', though the PIE status of both is
> > guaranteed by their wide distibution and ample attestation. Actually, if
> > a root is transparently imitative, it's likely to be relatively young,
> > since the onomatopoeic effect diminishes over time as a result of sound
> > change (Eng. wind or Fr. vent have practically lost it). But in
> > principle the relationship between sound and meaning is arbitrary and
> > there is no reason why the same *h2 should not have occurred in "watery"
> > roots such as *//h2ep-//.
> >
> > Piotr
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> As is supported by &_n_x "to breathe" in Egyptian.
> and s._b "to flow" in Arabic.
>


Arnaud
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Those words have nothing to do with the question.


Patrick
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