Re: Priimary Stem Formants: =*H, -*i/y, *-u/w

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@...>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] RE: Priimary Stem Formants: =*H, -*i/y, *-u/w
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> > On 2008-04-07 20:06, alexandru_mg3 wrote:
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> > > No Meaning?
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> > > when
> > > dHeh1- means 'to set, to place'
> > > dHeh1-i- means 'to suck'
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> > > in the above case the -i- seems to represent 'a liquid' here or
> > > something that 'covers' 'a liquid' too...
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> > Another victim of the "monkey-help-die-begin" syndrome? There's no
> > suggestion in Jasanoff (or anywhere else) that *dHeh1- 'put,

place' and

> > *dHeh1-j- 'suck' have anything to do with each other.
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> > Piotr
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> I believe there is a god chance that they are the same word with a

core

> meaning of 'release':
> *dheH-, 'release at' = 'put, place'; *dheH-, 'suck', 'cause to be

released'.

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> Patrick
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'Usually'

*dHeh1-i- 'to suck' 'is analysed together'
*peh3-i- 'to drink'

by considering that a suffix -y- was added at an early stage to this
root.

(The nature of this suffix is of course disputed).

Once accepted that there is an ancient suffix -y- (doesn't matter
its origin) in the above roots:

=> if we will follow, Piotr, would result that there was 2 identical
roots :

1. *dHeh1- 'to set, to place'
2. *dHeh1- 'to suck' or <<"the origin of to suck" but "for-sure-
different" from "to set, to place">>

===> The common-sense question here is:
Why "for-sure-different" , Piotr?

Marius

P>S> So I think that is not the case to make "monkey-jokes" here
before to answer with some good arguments to the above question.