From: tgpedersen
Message: 56979
Date: 2008-04-07
>Compare for yourself:
>
> --- "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:
>
> > At 5:21:12 PM on Sunday, April 6, 2008,
> > fournet.arnaud
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > >> Afrikaans is a creolized Dutch.
> >
> > > Afrikaans looks like a dialect of Dutch.
> >
> > That might be a little bit too strong, but it
> > certainly is descended from 17th century Dutch.
> >
> > > It never stopped to be spoken by a majority of people
> > > whose mother tongue was a set of dialectal varieties of
> > > Dutch.
> >
> > Exactly. Since it was extraterritorial, it was subject to
> > contact influences different from those of the (European)
> > Dutch dialects, but 'creolized Dutch' is a gross
> > exaggeration.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> I've seen descriptions of it as a creole language.
> Dutch speakers tell me it's about a far from Dutch as
> Jamaican patois is from English --more than the
> difference between US and British English. It
> supposedly has a simplified grammar and has influence
> from german, French, English and various autochthonous
> African languages.