From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 56869
Date: 2008-04-06
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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [tied] Re: Mitanni and Matsya
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@...>
>
> > ***
> > That relationship (PIE, semitic) is so patently obvious that only that
> > only a willfully difficult person could possibly deny it.
> > ***
>
> I consider it true but not obvious.
> It's fairly tricky to demonstrate.
> Arnaud
> =========
> > >> One of the core assertions of Nostratic is that PIE is closely
> > >> related
> > >> to
> >> Asiatic languages
> >> and PAA is a far-away member.
> >> I definitely disagree with that core assertion. I think the reverse is
> >> true.
> > ***
> >
> > ??? What is the "reverse"?
> >
> > ***
>
> The reverse is :
> PIE is close to PAA (I consider that it can be held to be part of it but
> let's keep standard names for clarity's sake)
> PIE is not an Asiatic language and has no connection with this Eurasiatic
> thing.
> which clashes with every cultural and ethnographical knowledge we have on
> PIE speakers.
> Arnaud
> =========
> >
> > A visit to the Tower of Babel should convince you that ST has nothing to
> > be, per se, with Nostratic (PIE and PAA).
> >
> > ST is a higher node; and the big squabble is what counterposes ST and
> > the
> > other side - Nostratic but how many others?
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > ***
>
> I am a regular user of ToB and I am convinced ST languages are closely
> related to Eurasiatic (minus PIE which has nothing to do here)
>
> Arnaud
>
> ==============
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Two comments:
1) Odin seems much like a super-shaman to me;
2) What do you want to call the higher node (Eurasiatic + PIE)? Borean?
Patrick
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