Re: Not "catching the wind " , or, what ARE we discussing?

From: tgpedersen
Message: 56554
Date: 2008-04-03

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tgpedersen
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> Aha, a geminate.
> The usual explanation for 'cat' in Germanic and Celtic is that it is
> a loan from Latin; but if it is so, then
> =========
> Yes
> As in Arabic qat.t.u "cat"
> Arnaud
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Sounds reasonable. Do you have it in Phoenician?

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> 1) why does Freya have a cat-drawn chariot
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freyja
> qoute: '"People of many races visited this burning. First is to be
> told of Odin, how Frigg and the Valkyries went with him, and his
> ravens; but Freyr drove in his chariot with the boar called
> Gold-Mane, or Fearful-Tusk, and Heimdallr rode the horse called
> Gold-Top, and Freyja drove in her chariot drawn by cats..."
> (Gylfaginning (49))"';
> why this if they only knew the cat from the Romans; this doesn't
> look like a late accretion?
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> What is the exact word for "cat"
> in the original text ?

It's in the article too.

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> 2) why does the the geminated katt- root have a non-geminated side
> form with -t- in German and Dutch kater "tomcat", cf.
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/49197 ?
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> From which I conclude that the *katt- word in both Celtic and
> Germanic is a loan from (probably non-IE) NWBlock, which is also the
> language of geminates, and that explains the lack of Grimm-shift;
> *kat- is a non-geminated side form from some neighbor dialect.
> Imported into NWBlock with a ship cat?
> Torsten
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> Geminated forms are Celtic.
> The others are Italic.
>
> Arnaud

Because?


Torsten