Re: Gemination in Celtic

freckle would also seem somehow related, but how?

--- "Anders R. Joergensen" <ollga_loudec@...>
wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud"
> <fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:
> >
> > So
> > we have left with the following words :
> >
> > -kk- versus -g-
> >
> > mrekk "speckled"
> > marga
>
> I don't think a word mrecc exists in OIr.
> We have brecc 'speckled' < *brikko- and mrecht
> 'variegated,
> diversified'. Strange as it may seem, they're not
> compatible.
>
> >
> > bhukk- "bock"
> > bhug
>
> Which may be a borrowing from Germanic. The Avestan
> length is
> apparently secondary.
>
> >
> > bhelH-k- "beam"
> > bhelH2-g-
>
> It would make it much easier to figure out what you
> mean, if you
> could provide some examples from actual Celtic
> languages.
>
> >
> > You don't like
> > makk / smag
>
> No, I think the Celticity of mak- is much too
> uncertain to allow any
> conclusions.
>
> >
> > What about
> > LAtin stercus = sterganos ?
>
> I thought the law didn't apply to Latin?
>
> > O. irl menicc = many ?
>
> This, indeed, is a case of Celtic *kk. How do you
> reconstruct the PIE
> form (and especially the necessary sequence of
> *-h2g-)?
>
> >
> > creicc "buy" < kwriH2-k-
> > Greek pri-a-o
>
> This word, along with reicc 'selling' are
> interesting, and I don't
> think Thurneysen's explanation is immeditately
> convincing (GOI 454:
> attraction to _ícc_ 'healing). You posit
> *kWrih2-k-... does you rule
> also work with voiceless stops? If not, what is the
> motivation for
> positing *kWrih2-g-?
>
> >
> > -tt- versus -d-
> >
> > You don't like
> > pott / catina
> > kass- / kad
>
> I think the two examples might be mutually
> exclusive...
>
> >
> > What about
> > O.irl deateach < *dett-
> > *dheuH- "smoke"
>
> How do you account for the vocalism, for one thing?
>
> >
> > -pp- versus -b-
> >
> > capp-al "horse"
> > caballus / kokyla
>
> This is indeed a difficult word. I have no
> explanation for the
> consonantism, other than that it is a borrowing from
> an unknown
> language, independently into some IE languages. It
> is not optimal,
> admittedly.
>
> Anders
>
>

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