Re: Re[3]: [tied] Gemination in Celtic

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 56297
Date: 2008-03-30

Were you frightened by a glottal stop while still in the cradle, Arnaud?

You are obsessed with them.


Patrick


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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
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Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: Re[3]: [tied] Gemination in Celtic


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian M. Scott
>
> > What would it be in Germanic ?
>
> I expect that Anders is thinking of OE <buc>, ON <bukkr>,
> OHG <bocch> 'he-goat; stag', all from PGmc. *bukkaz.
> Watkins does suggest that this might have been borrowed from
> a PCelt. *bukkos, from which he says that OFr <boc> 'buck'
> was borrowed; Matasovic has *PCelt. *bukko- 'goat' (OIr
> <boc>, MWe <bwch>, MBret <bouch>, OCo <boch> glossed 'caper
> .l. hyrcus') and says that the Celtic forms may be loanwords
> from Germanic. The source in any case is *bHug^o-, also
> represented by Arm. <buc> 'lamb' and Avest. <bu:za->.
>
> Brian
>
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> My suggestion is to reinterpret *bHug^o
> as being *bhu?-k-
> which regularly gives :
> - Eastern forms like *bu(:)z-
> NB : Why is Avest u: long ?
> - Celtic as being *bu?-k > *bukk-
> - And Germanic is possible Klugenized
> from *bhu?k-n- (or Celtic LW)
>
> Arnaud
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>