pot Re: Re[2]: [tied] Gemination in Celtic

In Spanish bote is used for "container" usually
plastic or "jar", also"boat"
except for here in El Salvador, where it only has the
meaning "boat" and they use guacal "gourd" for
"plastic container"
It definitely looks related to bottle
So is it possible that pot was a Germanic reflex of
*bot-????


--- "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:

> At 3:00:24 AM on Saturday, March 29, 2008,
> fournet.arnaud
> wrote:
>
> > From: Anders R. Joergensen
>
> >>> pott- "pottery" < *kwoH2-t-eH2
> >>> k_w_H2 as in Greek kaFiô "to burn"
>
> >> What Celtic words are you referring to?
>
> > French pot for example.
>
> Not a good choice.
>
> Dauzat:
>
> Wace, du lat. pop. <pottus> (réduit à <potus>, Ve
> s.,
> Fortunat), probablem. d'un rad. préceltique
> <pott->.
>
> OED s.v. <pot>, 3/2008 revision:
>
> Cognate with Old Frisian <pot>, Middle Dutch <pot>
> (Dutch
> <pot>), Middle Low German <pot, put> (German
> regional (Low
> German) <pott, putt>; > German <Pott> (16th
> cent.)), Old
> Icelandic <pottr> (Icelandic <pottur>), Old
> Swedish
> <pott, potta> (Swedish <pott, potta>), Danish
> <pot,
> potte>, further etymology uncertain (see below).
> Prob.
> reinforced in Middle English by Anglo-Norman and
> Old
> French <pot> (first half of the 12th cent. in Old
> French,
> earliest in metaphorical use); cf. Old Occitan
> <pot> (14th
> cent.; Occitan <pòt>), Catalan <pot> (1363),
> Spanish
> <pote> (c1450 or earlier; also as <bote> (c1450)),
> Portuguese <pote> (1461), Italian +<potto> (1611
> in
> Florio; perh. cf. also <poto> a kind of drink
> (a1306; now
> arch. or literary)). Cf. also post-classical Latin
> <pottus> pot, vessel (freq. from 13th cent. in
> British and
> continental sources; perh. 6th cent. in Venantius
> Fortunatus as <potus>, app. showing alteration
> after
> classical Latin <po:tus> drinking, drink: see POTE
> n.3,
> although interpretation of this example is not
> certain);
> perh. recorded earlier as a proper name, <Pottus>,
> on
> vessels from Trier, perh. illustrating the use of
> the name
> of the object as a nickname for the manufacturer.
> The word
> in the Germanic and Romance languages and in
> post-classical Latin perh. ult. shows a loanword
> from a
> pre-Celtic language (perh. Illyrian or perh. a
> non-Indo-European substratal language), although a
> number
> of other etymologies have also been suggested.
>
> Brian
>
>
>

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