From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 56187
Date: 2008-03-29
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From: Anders R. Joergensen
>
> Originally, I was trying to know if and which
> languages had pre-glottalized in PIE.
>
> Ultimately, I found this :
> - Celtic + Osco-umbrian display
> H2-C (unvoiced) > -CC- unvoiced
> - others
> H2-C (unvoiced) > -C- voiced
>
> Latin is somehow ambiguous
> but Celtic is not.
>
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We have been mixing my initial
proposal with Kluge's Law,
so
I will restate my point of view :
We are looking for examples of
Gemination of unvoiced in Celtic
where Osco-Umbrian also has
gemination while the rest of PIE
has a voiced consonant
or suggests H2 was in the skeletton
of the root.
Any other examples that are
Kluge-nizable are irrelevant.
The Examples
to be discussed are for example :
pott- "pottery" < *kwoH2-t-eH2
k_w_H2 as in Greek kaFiô "to burn"
bukk- "male"
Tsigane, avestique buz < *bu-g-
kass- "hate"
ka:dos
Av sadra
lakk- "slack"
Greek lag-aros
One of the clearest examples.
Cf. peH2-g/k- about the same.
lu?k "hiccup"
Gaelic aileag
Greek lug-mos
makk "eat"
smag "taste"
mrekk- "speckled"
Lituanian margas
Possible
V.ir ad-glad-ur < -tt- ?
hra:date
kekhla:da
Celtic meni-kk- "many"
Arnaud
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