Re: Slav names from *Walh-

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> <miguelc@> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:03:19 -0000, "tgpedersen"
> > <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> >
> > >I know the various Polish and Russian names from PGmc. *walh.
> > >"southern foreigner" in -lo-/-olo- probably follow ordinary

rules

> of
> > >derivation from Proto-Proto-Slav. -al-.
> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymology_of_Vlach
> > >I just want to be sure: Are we absolutely certain all Slavic

forms

> > >from Germanic *walh- are from exactly that form in -al- and not
> > >something earlier (I'm thinking of the original -ol- in Celtic
> Volcae)?
> >
> > Since Slavic did not distinguish between /o/ and /a/, that
> > would be hard to tell. The /h/, however, shows it was
> > borrowed from Germanic *walh-.
> >
> > =======================
> > Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> > miguelc@
> >
>
>
> ... and if you will go further Vallachia is finally linked with
> Walhalla - the great hall in Norse mythology where heroes slain in
> battle are received
>
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/valhalla
>
> Marius
>

Valhalla
heavenly hall in which Odin receives the souls of heroes slain in
battle, 1768, from O.N. Valhöll "hall of the battle-slain;" first
element from valr "those slain in battle,"

"
from P.Gmc. *walaz (cf. O.E. wæl "slaughter, bodies of the slain,"
O.H.G. wal "battlefield, slaughter"),
from PIE base *wele- "to strike, wound"
(cf. Avestan vareta- "seized, prisoner,"
L. veles "ghosts of the dead,"
O.Ir. fuil "blood,"
Welsh gwel "wound").

Second element is from höll "hall," from PIE base *kel- "to conceal"
(see cell). Reintroduced by 18c. antiquaries. Figurative sense is
from 1845
"

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Valhalla

Marius