Re: Fire

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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:54 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: Fire


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> From: Patrick Ryan
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> > >> prut : boil => Cf. PIE bherew-
> > >> pwa(:)r : fire => Cf. PIE puH2ar
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> > Actually 'fire/burn/shine/white'.
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> > Brian
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> In my opinion, 'fire' is earliest PIE *p(h)wa:-r-.
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> Patrick
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> Dear Patrick
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> Still in the throes on your
> Jurassic Park theory of Laryngeals.

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I fail to see what my reconstruction above has to do with 'Laryngeal
Theory', Jurassic version or otherwise.

In my version of the word, there are _no_ laryngeals.

The *a: is naturally long, i.e. comes into PIE already long without the aid
of a 'laryngeal'.


Patrick

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> PIE *puH2-°r
> Actually H2 here is velar spirant voiced.
> Greek pu:r
> Anatolian puhr
> (I suppose Miguel can provide better)
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> Now Uralic has :
> UEW360 päjwä "fire" < *puG-wa
> UEW366 päwe "warm" < *puG-ma
> UEW368 peje "cook" < *puG
> UEW385 pes^ä "cook" < *puG-c^a
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> G > yod in PU and causes vocalic fronting.
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> No Doubt (once again)
> Forward a little kiss to Torsten on my behalf.
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> Arnaud
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