Re: dhuga:ter ('LARYNGEALS')

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer Vidal <miguelc@...>
wrote:

>
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:48:04 -0700 (PDT), Rick McCallister
> <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
>
> >I agree moko can't be the original form but is there a
> >*boko or something like that?
>
> There is Roncalese boxo "muzzle for calfs".
>
> A development b- > m- in the absence of a following -n-
> would be, as Trask says, irregular, but it is attested in
> words like Lat. BACILLA > makila "stick".

I can't find Bacilla in Ernout-Meillet?

> >In English and Spanish there are expressive terms for
> >"face" but they all have meanings
> >e.g. English "mug" Spanish "jeta" et al. can be
> >metaphorically or otherwise related
>
> In Basque, words of expressive origin can usually be
> recognized by the phonotactics alone. Symptoms include:
> 1) initial p-, t-, k-, d-, m-;
> 2) medial geminates (-p-, -t-, -k-);
> 3) palatalization (-x-, -tx-, -tt-);
> 3) strange variant forms (like in this case moko ~ mosko)

Do these four symptoms indicate for different things that the
expressiveness expresses, or are they expressing the same (thing)?
In particular, do the medial geminates in 2) express the same thing as
the expressive medial geminates of Germanic? If not, do the constitute
a substrate loan from Expressionese? Where did the Expressionesians
live and when, if at all?


Torsten