Re: dhuga:ter ('LARYNGEALS')

Richard, when what I send as Unicode comes through ferm most members, the
Unicode character is intact.

From you, it turned into /(capital A with a superior circle.

I am not complaining except that Arnaud interpreted /ng/ as a pre-nasalized
dorsal rather than as the voiced dorsal nasal I intended.

Now everything you have sent has SAMPA, and I cannot make heads or tails of
it.

Let us go back to simpler methods for these sounds, like <M> for voiceless
/m/; /_ng_/, etc.


Patrick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Wordingham" <richard@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:44 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: dhuga:ter ('LARYNGEALS')


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@...>
wrote:
This is best read in UTF-8, but is comprehensible in any ASCII extension.

> Richard, I am sending this in Unicode:
>
> /Å >
> I cannot make the sign for a voiceless dorsal nasal.

Yet another reasons for asking for transliterations, such as:

IPA Å< = X-SAMPA N = Kirshenbaum N
IPA Å<Ì¥ = X-SAMPA N_0 = Kirshenbaum N<vls>

In your opinion, what happened to the voiceless PIE (pre-PIE?) nasals
m̥ (= X-SAMPA m_0, Kirshenbaum m<vls>) and n̥ (̩X-SAMPA n_0, Kirshenbaum
n<vls>)?

Richard.