From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 55757
Date: 2008-03-23
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [tied] hoopoe
> The sound in the Egyptian for "Thoth"?
>
>
> --- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:
>
> > They are not two values.
> >
> > The most frequent spelling is db with a bar under
> > the d.
> >
> > A convention called Manuel de codage recommends Db.
> >
> > Some scholars, I think mainly Germans, use dj-b.
> >
> > All mean the same thing.
> >
> > Since Egyptian <D> derives from both Nostratic *t?s
> > and *ts, it is an
> > affricate.
> >
> > In my opinion, it passed into Egyptian as voiceless
> > but palatalized: /tsh/.
> >
> > Its descendent in Coptic, however, is usually
> > regarded as being /dzh/.
> >
> > This is not onomatopeic. It means 'tuft'.
> >
> > Bear in mind, that I believe the proper reading is
> > Dwb not Db.
> >
> > Budge has many uses but unless you are an
> > Egptologist, you will never figure
> > out how to use him properly.
> >
> > Faulkner is not too expensive, and there may be a
> > newer French dictionary of
> > which I am not aware that would be suitable.
> >
> > Beinlich seems to include everything but the kitchen
> > sink. Use him. But look
> > at his sources, which he kindly lists.
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
> > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re: [tied] hoopoe
> >
> >
> > > M. Ryan
> > >
> > > Congratulations !
> > > This is the ultimate proof.
> > >
> > > But this sign has two values :
> > > D_b or dj_b
> > >
> > > I prefer dj_b
> > > and this dj is better read ts?
> > > ts? _b < *ts_?_p
> > >
> > > Great !
> > >
> > > I have ququp for hoopoe
> > > in Budge.
> > >
> > > Arnaud
> > >
> > > ===============
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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