Re: Taurisci (Was:Re: Kossack's Conclusions)

Taurisci has an Illyrian, Celtic or Ligurian sound to
it and as I remember, Toruń is in the north,
isn't it? Are you suggesting that the Venetic and the
Venedi/Wends are the same and they settled in
Toruń?


--- george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:

>
> --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> > > GK: There are alternate etymologies in the
> > Wiki
> > > "Torun" article. Have a look. I suspect that the
> > > Germanic etymologies all have to do with the
> town
> > > founded in 1233. This is possible because we
> don't
> > > apparently know the name of the Slavic/Polish
> > > settlement which existed there from ca. 600 CE.
> So
> > the
> > > German etymologies argue for the original German
> > > source of the 1233 "Thorn" and the Polish
> > etymologies
> > > try to figure out what this "Thorn" might have
> > been in
> > > the period 600-1233. But it may have been called
> > by an
> > > entirely different name then! In any case, none
> of
> > > this really matters for your thesis, because
> there
> > > seems to have been no settlement there of any
> sort
> > > between ca. 400 BCE and ca. 600 CE. So anyone
> > > "starting out" from that spot (if they did which
> > is
> > > more than wholly doubtful) in the 1rst c. BCE
> > would
> > > hardly call themselves after a name which did
> not
> > > arise (certainly) for another 1300 years or
> > (possibly)
> > > for another 650 or so...
> >
> > I could add another Germanic etymology: OLG turn,
> > MLG torn, Late ON
> > turn, corresponding to OHG turri, turru, MHG turn,
> > turm, OE torr
> > "tower", from Lat. turris etc. The -m in German
> Turm
> > must have kept
> > that one out of etymologists' minds.
> >
> > But, on the other hand, place names even of
> deserted
> > places can stay,
> > if they have a sufficiently good story to them.
> > Since we are in that
> > end of the history of the Hermunduri, there might
> be
> > a connection to
> > the Taurisci?
>
>
> ****GK: And what would that be?****
> >
> >
> > Torsten
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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