Re: Kossack's Conclusions

From: george knysh
Message: 55601
Date: 2008-03-21

(continued)
--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
The "new Marcomanni" in Bohemia must
> have
> > incorporated large Germanic populations upon
> > relocation there.
>
> I don't think so. Weren't they the first Germani
> there?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czech_Republic

****GK: That's what I mean. By "incorporation" I refer
to other Germanic tribal units which moved to Bohemia
at Marbod's invitation between 8 BCE and 5 CE, and
probably later too (I agree, of course,that Marbod was
the 'great mover' here, that's what the sources say),
not to groups "in situ".****
>
>
> > Both these and the Przew. element
> > would have transited to the ElbGerm. culture.
> Possibly
> > the Przew.elements which blended in have not yet
> been
> > discovered. Possibly they have not yet been
> identified
> > as components of the local ElbGerm.culture.
>
> As you can see, Hachmann has difficulties upholding
> his early
> conviction that the Wetterau and Thuringian
> incursion is Przeworsk,
> lack of professional acceptance, one surmises, and
> that idea took long
> before that to be recognized, so a 'hidden'
> Przeworsk nature of the
> Marcomanni in Bohemia is not out of the question.
>
>
> > In any
> > case, if indeed Dio Cassius should be read as
> above,
> > then the Hermunduri settlement in Thuringia would
> > definitely associate the Marcom. with Przeworsk
> since
> > that(the new area of the Hermunduri) had been
> their
> > earlier haunt, and still technically "theirs". It
> > would be nice to know what culture other than
> Przew.
> > was there before Marbod's exodus: Celticized
> elements
> > of the Leine valley, lots of Przeworsk, and "X"
> > (Jastorf?) All blending into ELb Germ.soon after
> the
> > Bohemian migration. What do you think?
>
> If you're talking about who was there in Thuringia,
> you're probably
> right. It seems to gel with what all of Peschel,
> Hachmann and Kossack
> have to say about it. What do you think of my
> interpretation?

****GK: I've mentioned some difficulties with parts of
it. No doubt there will be more discussion.****
>
>
> Torsten
>
>
>



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