From: Brian M. Scott
Message: 55584
Date: 2008-03-20
> From: "Miguel Carrasquer Vidal" <miguelc@...>[...]
>> On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:43:06 -0500, "Patrick Ryan"
>> <proto-language@...> wrote:
>>> By the 'l-theory', Miguel rightly projected *senáH2- for'[B]y the time we get to adding case-endings'?!
>>> the result of the first form. By my method, we would
>>> expect *s°néH- -> *sene:-.
>>> Which is more likely to fund the actual forms seen in
>>> <senex>?
>> *senáh2-, of course. The nominative *senáh2s becomes
>> *senáks with laryngeal hardening, the acc. *senáh2m
>> becomes *sená:m. *senáks regularly gives Lat. senex, the
>> acc. shortened the vowel under the influence of the
>> nominative and we regularly have *senam > senem. The
>> opposite occurred in the suffix *-trih2-, where we would
>> expect nom. *-triks, with a short vowel, acc. *-tri:m.
>> Here, the nom. took over the long vowel from the acc.,
>> giving Latin -tri:x, acc. -tri:cem. That the vowel had
>> already been coloured to /a/ by *h2 before laryngeal
>> hardening (something which Latin cannot show) is seen in
>> the other cognates I listed: Slavic -a:k, Armenian -ac,
>> -ak`, Greek -ax, -a:x, all with *a or *a:.
> We have been dancing around the fact that every
> 'laryngeal' in *s°néH-s seems to harden, perhaps because
> PIE would not tolerate adjacent fricatives so the first
> one was 'hardened' into the stop /k/. If nominative
> singular *z, in which I do not believe, voiced anything,
> it should have voiced the *H, or the 'hardened' /k/ to
> /g/.
> There were no *a's (unless already lengthened to *a:) in
> PIE by the time we get to adding case-endings.
> What, exactly, changed *a to *e "regularly"?You mean to get from *senáks and *senam to <senex> and