Re[3]: [tied] Latin -idus as from dH- too

At 4:55:34 AM on Sunday, March 16, 2008, fournet.arnaud
wrote:

> From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal

>>>> Olsen's claim is that when the root ends in
>>>> non-syllabic *h1/2, the suffix is *-tHr/lom > Italic
>>>> *-þr/lom > *-ðr/lom > -brum/-bulum. Otherwise it's
>>>> *-tr/lom > -trum/-culum.

>>>How does she explain these words ?

>> Like everybody else does: *siuh1-tlóm, *me:ms-róm.

> So *s is a laryngeal ?

Different suffix. And I believe that PIE *-sr- > Lat. -br-
is regular.

> As regards *su:bula,
> It's quite obvious I disagree with *siuH1

> Meillet p 964
> Pour "coudre", l'i.e avait une racine *syu:
> avec doublet su:,
> dans latin suô, il n'y a pas de trace de-y-.

PIE *sy- > Lat. s-. Michael Weiss also notes that in
allegro speech <si: aude:s> 'if you dare' became <so:de:s>
'if you do not mind', a parallel change. The rule isn't
isolated: PIE *my- > Lat. m-, exemplified by

*my- > *myowh1/3-eye-ti 'moves' > movet.

Brian