Re: Latin -idus as from dH- too

Then why do you use it for *p&tér, which definitely has an *H in it?

Be consistent.


Patrick

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> From: Patrick Ryan
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> Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: Re: [tied] Latin -idus as from dH- too
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> I thought you said Meillet used <°> for a reduced *e not a laryngeal; and
> some other sign for the vocalic residue of the 'laryngeal'.
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> Are you changing that?
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> Patrick
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> As far as I'm considered
> a laryngeal (whichever H123) is a consonant,
> it *never* surfaces as a vowel.
> the reason why I reject the wording
> "vocalized laryngeal"
> I suppose It means H > v
> I believe °H > v
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> Meillet was half way from
> non-laryngealist epoch
> to standard PIE.
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> The main point is I believe
> (As Meillet did)
> there is an unstressed vowel /°/
> which is a phoneme contrasting
> with /e/ and /o/
> which has nothing to do
> with laryngeals.
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> Arnaud
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> From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
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> Subject: Re: Re: [tied] Latin -idus as from dH- too
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Patrick Ryan
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> > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 6:31 PM
> > Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: [tied] Latin -idus as from dH- too
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> > pH2-ter and dhu-gH2-ter
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> > What is the problem?
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> > Patrick
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> > There are two problems :
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> > Father is probably *p°-ter
> > with no laryngeal at all.
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> > Daughter is *dhugh2°-ter
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> > These words are not clearly PIE-stage,
> > as they have no reflex at all in Anatolian,
> > And quite obviously even fewer reflexes
> > in Yenissei or North caucasic.
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> > Arnaud
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