Re: Latin -idus as from dH- too

Olsen wrong again.

There is no alternation between *r and *l in PIE.

-dhr/lo- is occupational

-tr/lo is habitual


Easily confused; and what is easym you can be sure will be done.



Patrick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Miguel Carrasquer Vidal" <miguelc@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Latin -idus as from dH- too


> On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:14:10 +0100, Piotr Gasiorowski
> <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> >On 2008-03-15 21:46, fournet.arnaud wrote:
> >
> >> Does it mean that in LAtin
> >> when the root skeleton ends
> >> - with H then the suffix is -dh-
> >> - with C other than H
> >> the suffix is -t- ?
> >
> >Olsen's claim is that when the root ends in non-syllabic *h1/2, the
> >suffix is *-tHr/lom > Italic *-þr/lom > *-ðr/lom > -brum/-bulum.
> >Otherwise it's *-tr/lom > -trum/-culum.
>
> Within Balto-Slavic, Baltic generalized *-tlom (Lith.
> -klas), while Slavic generalized *-thlom > *-dhlom (OCS
> -dlo). E.g. Lith. árklas = CSlav *or"dlo = Grk. árotron <
> PIE *h2ar&3trom.
>
> Greek preserves all variants (245 hits for -tron, 98 for
> -thron, 11 for -tlon and 14 for -thlon on Perseus).
>
> The alternation l ~ r is explained by Olsen as following
> from the shape of the root: if it contained /r/ or /l/ or
> ended in /s/, we originally had *-tróm, else *-tlóm
> (Balto-Slavic has generalized *-t(h)lo-).
>
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> miguelc@...
>
>