Re: Latin -idus as from dH- too

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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
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Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [tied] Latin -idus as from dH- too


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Patrick Ryan
> > ========
> > Latin su:bula "awl" is from *s_z_w
> Arnaud
>
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> In what language? Either specify little things like or do not bother to
> mention them. They are meaningless in no context.
> ***
> *s_z_w is PIE.
> Western PIE is *s_H2_w
> Eastern PIE is *s_y_w.

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PIE did not have a *z-phoneme, only [z] as an allophone of *s.


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> Arnaud.
> ============
> > as seen in Egyptian s_z_b "to sew"
> > Coptic me-sôbe "awl"
> ***
> There is _NO_ Egyptian <szb>, 'sew', AFAIK.
> Where did you get this?
> ***
>
> I'm getting fed up
> with your compulsive need
> to be humiliated.
> Standard transcription is : ssb
> As for mesôbe,
> you can read Vycichl.
> Arnaud
> ================

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I have checked Faulkner and Wörterbuch: no <ssb> or <szb>.

You appear to be full of Vycichl.


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> > The presence of *z accounts for
> > the "strange" of this root *s(y)ew
> > with (East) or without (West) *y < z.
> >
> > Su:--bula can be from *so:-- < *sozw--
> > There is no restauration here.
>
> ***
> The difference between *syew- and *sew- is that simply some PIE-derived
> languages used derivational *sA-y as a base while some used simply *sA
> or
> All were original *sAy-based and *syAw- was simplified to *sAw- in some
> PIE-derived languages; I favor this explanation though there is no
> 'proving
> it'.
> Patrick
> ***
>
> Pathetic.
> I spare "fiflska"
> for a better opportunity.
> Arnaud
> ==============

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Are you familiar with <albern>?

Are you pining for the <restauration> of the Empire?


Patrick


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