Re: Torsten's theory reviewed

From: tgpedersen
Message: 55157
Date: 2008-03-14

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
>
>
> > Refs.:
> > As proof of continuity of Jastorf they offer a grave field in
> > continuous use 6th cent BCE - 1st cent CE (Mühlen-Eichsen).
> > But that's compatible with a discontinuity caused by arrivals
> > in the 1st cent. BCE. Re supposed mixture of Elbe and Przeworsk,
> > see the section on 'Zwischen Kelten und Germanen'.
> >
> http://www.kah-bonn.de/ausstellungen/archaeologie/pr_wandtexte.pdf
>
> ****GK: What this seems to say is that the area
> "between the Celts and the Germans" was progressively
> "Germanized" as a result of influence from
> Jastorf(north) and Przeworsk (east). It says nothing
> about a "mixture of Elbe and Przeworsk" in the area of
> the Jastorf culture proper, only in this "middle"
> area. It's a very short passage. Perhaps you could
> translate it?****

No prob.
"
Between Celts and Germani

Migrations of Germanic tribes in pre-Roman Iron Age are recounted by
writers of the Antiquity. Archaeological pointers to an occupation of
the area of the Mittelgebirge and the land immediately to the south by
foreigners are given by grave finds of Elbe Germanic provenance. The
region, according to this, came under the influence of the Celtic
Latène culture from the South in Late Iron Age, whereas from the North
the Elbe Germanic Jastorf culture pushed forward just as East Germani
in the 1st cent. BCE from the Oder-Warthe area. As a result these
events led to a 'Germanization' of the Mittelgebirge area on the
northern edge of the Celtic world. The internal connections are made
apparent in exemplary manner by the grave field of Körner in
Thuringia, the grave gift range of which clearly mirrors the various
influences between the 3rd cent. BCE and the 2nd cent. CE. A
counterpoint is formed by the great funeral field of Mühlen-Eichsen in
Mecklenburg, which is situate in the core area of the Jastorf culture
and shows no foreign influence.
"


Torsten