From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 55146
Date: 2008-03-14
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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
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Subject: Re: Re: [tied] Latin -idus as from dH- too
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> From: Piotr Gasiorowski
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 12:06 AM
> Subject: [Courrier indsirable] Re: [tied] Latin -idus as from dH- too
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> On 2008-03-13 23:33, Miguel Carrasquer Vidal wrote:
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> Latin su:bula "awl" is from *s_z_w
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In what language? Either specify little things like or do not bother to
mention them. They are meaningless in no context.
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> as seen in Egyptian s_z_b "to sew"
> Coptic me-sôbe "awl"
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There is _NO_ Egyptian <szb>, 'sew', AFAIK.
Where did you get this?
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> The presence of *z accounts for
> the "strange" of this root *s(y)ew
> with (East) or without (West) *y < z.
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> Su:--bula can be from *so:-- < *sozw--
> There is no restauration here.
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The difference between *syew- and *sew- is that simply some PIE-derived
languages used derivational *sA-y as a base while some used simply *sA
or
All were original *sAy-based and *syAw- was simplified to *sAw- in some
PIE-derived languages; I favor this explanation though there is no 'proving
it'.
Patrick
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