Re: Latin -idus as from dH- too

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:06:21 +0100, Piotr Gasiorowski
<gpiotr@...> wrote:

>On 2008-03-13 23:33, Miguel Carrasquer Vidal wrote:
>
>> Since *-tor, *-ti and *-tu are all unstressed suffixes, and
>> Olsen's rules *do* apply to *-tr-ó- (*-tl-ó-) [a thematized,
>> and stressed, derivative of *-tor], maybe that could solve
>> some of the issues. *-tó- is of course inherently stressed
>> (and so is *-áh2-, I think, but not *-eh1-).
>
>A brilliant idea. Your own?

I saw *-tor, *-ti and *-tu versus *-tó- (and *-tr-ó-), and
the thought came to me, so it's at least independently mine.

>Of course one can expect a lot of analogical
>interference if a phonetic process affects a very productive and highly
>transparent formation. Examples like Skt. pr.tHá- 'the palm of the hand'
>< *pl.h2-tó- (cf. Gk. paláme:, Hitt. palhi- 'broad') can only be
>explained if one assumes *-h2tó- > -tHó- without the usual compensatory
>effect of the laryngeal. Cf. also *tl.h2-tláh2 > *tl.tHláh2 > *t&tHláh2
> > Pre-Lat. *taðla: > tabula. The less transparent, the better. But we
>seem to have the analogical restoration of the laryngeal in Ved.
>ti:rtHá- < *tl.h2-tó-, Lat. su:bula 'awl' < *sjuh1-tláh2, etc.

Yes, a form like *subula was transparently connected to
suere (verbal root su:-), su:tor, etc., which makes
restoration of the /u:/ not at all surprising.

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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