From: Rick McCallister
Message: 55047
Date: 2008-03-11
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> From: tgpedersen
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> On account of that you know nothing about it except
> what I told you
> decided it was Celtic?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordwestblock
> This statement
> "However, most linguistic features forwarded to
> sustain a separate
> Indo-European language, including tribenames like
> "Belgian", could be
> derived from both proto-Germanic and proto-Celtic"
> is false. One of the features by which one might
> distinguish NWBlock
> substrate words or place names is initial p-. The
> nice thing about
> this criterion is that those words can neither be
> Germanic (initial p-
> must be from PIE b-, but PIE b- is virtually
> non-existent) nor Celtic
> (initial p- is lost in Celtic, as you of course
> knew?).
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> This argument is particularly superficial.
>
> (I was about to write stupid,
> but I refrained from it)
>
> Celtic recreated *p out of *kw
> which is frequent.
> Cf. your suggestion that
> Dutch *pir "worm" is NWB
> obviously from PIE *kwer > Celtic *per
> River weib out of wegw.
>
> What other NWB words with *p
> do you have ?
>
> Arnaud
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