From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 54959
Date: 2008-03-10
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [tied] Re: Mille (thousand)
> I hate to break the news to you but ca-ca is "Number
> Two" < ka? "1" + ka? "1"
> The man is right and you owe him an apology
>
> --- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:
>
> > There is no *ka? meaning 'one' or *t?_m? meaning
> > 'two',
> >
> > or anything derived from it,
> >
> > in any language anywhere at any time.
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
> > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 12:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re: [tied] Re: Mille (thousand)
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> > >
> > > >=======================
> > >
> > > Whether short or long, at least the Uralicists
> > have a vowel
> > > in *kolm-. You don't have one in san ~ gsum ~
> > három.
> > > Miguel
> > > =======================
> > >
> > > It's ugly to delete
> > > my reconstruction and then declare
> > > that I have no vowel in it.
> > > This is old-style Soviet way of summarizing
> > > other people's points of view.
> > > Delete, distort, then say it's wrong.
> > >
> > > I will just restate what I have already said
> > > a dozen of times
> > > but it seems it takes time
> > > for data to reach the brain.
> > >
> > > My reconstruction as previously stated
> > > is ka?-t_?om?
> > > where ka? is "one"
> > > and t_?om? "two".
> > > I don't know which vowel was between
> > > t and ? (probably unstressed *a)
> > >
> > > Uralic is (usually) stressed on first syllable.
> > > Hence
> > > ka?-t_?om? > PU *ka:t?om
> > > ST is oxytone hence
> > > ka?-t_?om? > ST *ktsom
> > > Further Tib gsum
> > > (g is not voiced :
> > > it contrasts only with h spirant)
> > > Further Chinese *sam.
> > >
> > > Basque ka?t_?om? >
> > > ha:rom > hiru.
> > >
> > > t_?om? > t?w > PIE dw-o.
> > >
> > > Note that basque laur "four"
> > > can be connected with t_?om?
> > > thru ta?om?-ta?om? >
> > > ta?o-t?o > lau-r-u
> > > (m? lost ; t?>r)
> > >
> > > Don't be afraid to ask for more.
> > >
> > > Arnaud
> > >
> > > ======================
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